Bill Nye the Science Guy vs. Ken Ham the Creationist Bloke
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10 responses to “Bill Nye the Science Guy vs. Ken Ham the Creationist Bloke”
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I’ve watched only the last four minutes because on the whole I’m fed up with both atheistic scientism and “Creationism” thought by American fundamentalists and some Evangelicals, which imo are scattered bs without any fundamental philosophical reflection.
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What else could Nye have said in defense of science that wouldn’t have added so much controversy that it might have derailed the discussion entirely?
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What could he have said to Ken Ham? I don’t think there is any point in debating him in the first place. I think Ham’s outright dismissal of what he calls “historical science” is unwarranted, but on the other hand he does have a point regarding the historical emergence of natural science out of some rather Christian metaphysical assumptions. It’s my opinion that contemporary science needs to re-examine its classical metaphysical foundations to avoid falling victim to some of Ham’s criticisms about the origin of laws of nature and logic, etc. Scientific materialism owes more to a supernaturalist worldview than is usually acknowledged. I hope to make a video soon that addresses this issue.
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I don’t know if you were ever a serious Christian (Evangelical or otherwise), but that place can be an intellectual ghetto. I didn’t read anything significant about evolution or the age of the earth until I was 21. If a few hundred in the crowd engage in some reading later maybe Nye figured it was worth it.
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Also, what do you recommend reading about alternatives to capitalism?
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Start with Herman Daly and John Cobb’s book “For the Common Good”: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0807047058
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My thoughts exactly–Matthew Segall does a great job explaining the real problem in the Nye/Ham debate. In the end, capitalism reconciles every opposite. -
Slavoj Zizek and Alain Badiou suggest the ideological struggle of our time is not that between materialism versus spiritualism/religious fundamentalism/whatever, but between two forms of materialism, democratic versus dialectical. Democratic would refer to a type of materialism following Fukayama’s End of History logic, and dialectical, of course, would follow the path of German Idealism and its inheritors.
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Matthew, first off, I found your discussion of cognitive science/neurophenomenology/intersection with whitehead really fascinating and hope you write more on the topic and in general.
Secondly, I’d like to add that Nye also made an appearance in the Gate’s foundation newsletter, representing “science” and made what in my view (as a researcher in antibiotic science and having worked briefly on a Gate’s connected project for HIV) were some highly questionable assertions on infectious disease. One such insinuation was that the category of infectious disease was like a list to be crossed off – ironically, like a creationist’s categories of static “kinds”, another that climate change does not and will not significantly tax the economy.
I too would like to know how to “bridge the gap” so to speak. A democratization of the sciences and a greater emphasis on aesthetics, maybe.
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