“The safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato.”
–Alfred North Whitehead

Rudolf Steiner and Racism

Update Jan 31, 2024: The conversation continues on our Urphänomen Substack page.


As a teacher, I do my best to actively encourage deep and sustained dialogue about the racism, implicit or explicit, that shows up in the statements or actions of any figure studied with my students. Many modern European and American thinkers, including all the German idealists, Darwin, Nietzsche, Emerson, Whitehead, Jung, Teilhard, Heidegger, etc., have made statements that are racist.

There are a few things that can be said about this. In an educational context, it is essential that we distinguish the teaching of some aspects of a historical figure’s philosophy from an endorsement of their racist views. We can study the ideas of, e.g., Heidegger, while simultaneously condemning Nazism. Indeed, one reason to closely study such thinkers is to better understand why those who show such wisdom in some areas nonetheless succumb to such detestable political and social views. Sometimes the links between a philosophy and racist views are clearer (e.g., again, Heidegger). But in the case of Rudolf Steiner, I personally believe there is much of tremendous value, not the least of which being that his core insights into the nature of individual freedom and human destiny stand flatly opposed to racism.  

Nonetheless, Steiner has made statements that in my opinion are impossible to describe as anything other than racist. As far as I am concerned, Steiner’s comments (GA 174b) about the significance of skin color with regard to receiving the Christ impulse into human evolution are false and must be rejected. That ideas of racial hierarchy were pervasive among European scientists and intellectuals in the 19th and early 20th centuries is no excuse. One way of addressing this problem is to juxtapose his racist statements to his many other resolutely anti-racist (and anti-sexist) views. For example, from a lecture during WW1:

“… anyone who speaks of the ideals of race and nation…today is speaking of impulses which are part of the decline of humanity. If anyone now considers them to be progressive ideals to present to humanity, they speak untruth. Nothing is more designed to take humanity into its decline than the propagation of ideals of race, nationhood and blood.” 

Oct 26, 1917; GA 177

While no one is under any obligation to take Steiner’s cosmology seriously, it is important to consider how dramatically these issues are reconfigured depending upon whether one takes an edic or emic approach. From an emic perspective, Steiner’s esoteric understanding of reincarnation is such that each of us has in prior lives belonged to various ethnicities and genders. Further, anthroposophy teaches that, while we embody the cultural stream of our birth during our waking hours, during sleep we mix and mingle with all others. The notions of a fixed racial hierarchy or of race as somehow essential to an individual’s identity are incompatible with Steiner’s central ideas of reincarnation and the four-fold human being (e.g., while physical and etheric bodies carry and express generic characteristics, astral body and ego do not). Humanity is rather a plurality-in-unity. Here’s another excerpt from a lecture delivered a few years after WW1: 

“It is just when we penetrate into the inner nature and essence of the Peoples of the Earth that we find the differences of their individual natures. And then we realize that the all-embracing sphere of the ‘human’ is not expressed in its entirety through any individual person, or through the members of any one race, but only through the whole of humankind. If anyone would understand what they are in their whole being, let them study the characteristics of the different peoples of the Earth. Let them assimilate the qualities which they themselves cannot possess by nature, for only then will they become fully human. Full and complete humanity is a possibility for everyone. Everyone should pay heed to what lives in their own inner being. The revelation vouchsafed to other peoples is not theirs and they must find it in others. In our heart we feel and know that this is necessary. If we discover what is characteristically great in other peoples and allow this to penetrate deeply into our own being, we will realize that the purpose of our existence cannot be fulfilled without these other qualities, because they are also part of our own inner striving. The possibility of full humanity lies in every individual, but it must be brought to fulfilment by understanding the special characteristics of the different peoples spread over the Earth.” 

March 1920; GA 335

To reiterate, whether it’s Steiner or other figures like Emerson (who Cornel West referred to as “a typical nineteenth-century ‘mild racist,’” but who nonetheless stood with abolitionists against slavery and spoke out regularly regarding the US government’s treatment of Native Americans) or Whitehead (who ignorantly referred to “the discovery of empty continents” in a treatment of European history while at the same time arguing for the essential values of diversity and freedom for all peoples), I believe we can view their racist statements as not only exceptions to but in contradiction with the core thrust of their thinking and social activities. As always, it is important not to treat anyone, no matter how impressive, as an infallible guru. But nor should we rush to condemn a thinker’s entire philosophical contribution without first making a clear case that racism is so interwoven with the whole that nothing can be salvaged. As I say in the video discussion below, those who find value in Steiner’s work have a responsibility to separate the diamonds from the coal.

I realize that there’s a lot more that could be said, and that others are likely to fill in the gaps. I welcome good faith dialogue about these contentious issues. I also want to acknowledge that discussing racism on the level of ideas, no matter how powerful or transformative we might believe those ideas to be, risks overlooking the ways racism pervades—often violently—the everyday lives of so many people in the US and around the world. There is much work to be done on that front. But I take my task in the role of university professor to be to work toward an understanding of how ideas have shaped consciousness in the past and to retrieve or create those ideas that have the potential to help us develop more virtuous and clear-sighted human individuals and communities today and into the future.

All of this is by way of preface to the following recording of a discussion with a reading group called Urphänomen. After studying Steiner’s Riddles of Philosophy & Philosophy of Freedom together, we turned our attention to two lectures delivered to German anthroposophists on Feb 13 & 14, 1915 in Stuttgart (GA 174b). The issues addressed are controversial and deserve careful consideration. Much has already been written from diverse perspectives on the topic of race in Steiner’s work. We have decided to make our conversation public with the intention of modeling a new kind of dialogue among anthroposophists as well as with the broader public. Our interpretations of these and other lectures by Steiner may differ, but we all believe that the future of humanity depends in large part on how we find our way through these problems. This is just a beginning.

After this discussion a few days ago with our Urphänomen group, Ashton and I discussed some further thoughts on a walk. Listen:

Comments

24 responses to “Rudolf Steiner and Racism”

  1. Tom Mellett Avatar
    Tom Mellett

    Hello, Matt! I am so heartened by your willingness to open a real dialogue about Rudolf Steiner’s racial statements and his reasons behind them. I’d like to start by contextualizing this statement from the Feb 13, 1915 lecture in Stuttgart:

    RS: “But it was for the sake of bringing down the spiritual impulse that
    Christ became flesh in a human body. And the characteristic of the mission
    of white humanity in general is to carry down the spirit, to impregnate the
    flesh with the spirit. Man has his white skin that the spirit may work in
    the skin when it descends to the physical plane.”

    TOM: In other places he talks about white skin being “cheesy” hued, or tinged with green, but the Urphänomen of white skin is to be found in his lectures on Color. I quote from the 1st lecture of that cycle given 6 May 1921 in Dornach, GA 291. (6 years later than the Stuttgart lecture)

    Note that he doesn’t mention white skin color here. Instead he speaks of the color of healthy human flesh as being close to the color of peach blossom. (I recommend that you enter that term into the RS Archive Search box)

    https://rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA291/English/RSPC1935/19210506p01.html

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    RS: “Let us now take peach-blossom colour. More exactly, let us call it the colour of the human skin; of course, it is not the same for all people, but this colour, speaking generally, is that of the human skin. Let us endeavour to arrive at its essential nature. As a rule we see this human skin-colour only from outside. The question now arises as to whether a consciousness of it, a knowledge of it, can be gained from within, as we did in relation to the green of the plant. It can, indeed, be done in the following way.

    If a man really tries to imagine himself inwardly ensouled, and thinks of this ensouling as passing into his physical bodily form, he can imagine that in some way that which ensouls him flows into this form. He expresses himself by pouring his soul-nature into his form in the flesh-colour.”
    ======================

    TOM: Here he does not mention Christ flowing into the body as in 1915, but his own soul nature pouring into his bodily FORM which is then expressed as the peach-blossom/flesh color.

    In his color circle then, peach blossom is the living image of the soul.

    There’s more to cover, but let me stop here for now.

    Again, Matt, thank you so much for opening this dialogue.

    Best regards,

    Tom Mellett

  2. Tom Mellett Avatar
    Tom Mellett

    I think it’s important to note that Steiner sees skin color as a mystery we need to solve spiritually (viz. clairvoyantly) in order to penetrate into the real inner nature of the other human being — regardless of what his/her skin color is.

    For example, this quote relates rather directly to his teachings about the 12 Senses. The highest spiritual sense is the Sense of Ego, but he means the OTHER person’s ego! (OTOH, the sense of my own ego comes from the lowest 4 bodily senses: touch, life, movement, balance.)

    The Sources of Artistic Imagination and
Supersensible Knowledge

    6 May 1918, GA 271, Munich

    “You must not imagine that seership arises when a man ‘develops’ and is then able to see spiritually all other human beings and material objects. The way into the spiritual world takes many forms and is highly complex. Realisation of the innermost being of another man has as its main problem the experiencing of the mysteries of flesh-colour.”

  3. Tom Mellett Avatar
    Tom Mellett

    In 1923, Steiner gave an entire lecture devoted to skin color. I’ll give you the RS Archive version but I made my own translation of the opening paragraph and post it below.

    Here he states that penetrating the mystery of human skin color is important for understanding history and for helping the social life because the spiritual essence in each human being functions precisely through skin color!

    https://rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA349/English/UNK1969/19230303v01.html

    “Color and the Human Races,”
    Lecture 3 of 13 in GA 349
    given March 3, 1923 in Dornach

    [Excerpt translated by Tom Mellett]

    STEINER: Good morning! Now, gentlemen, in regard to the last question concerning colors, of course, I have not answered it entirely. We wish to pursue it further — even bring it to a conclusion. The first thing we will consider today is something of the greatest interest for us, namely, human color itself. Now it is obvious to everyone that, all over the earth, human beings manifest different colors. As for Europeans, to which group we belong, we can say that we represent the white race. Now, it’s also obvious to you that Europeans are not completely healthy, if they are “cheesy [pale] white,” but they are healthy when they show a fresher, more natural color* which they produce on the inside, and which shows itself outwardly as white.

    * [NOTE: he calls that “more natural color” peach-blossom in the Light Course]

    But now, in addition to this European skin color, we also have four other major skin colors. And we want to investigate that today a little bit, because, in reality, we may only understand all of history and the entire [past] social life, as well as today’s social life only if we can really delve into the racial characteristics of human beings. And only then will we be able understand everything spiritual in the true sense of that word, if we occupy ourselves first and foremost with how this spiritual essence in human beings functions precisely through skin color itself.”

  4. Tom Mellett Avatar
    Tom Mellett

    Hello Matt,

    In your discussion of Steiner’s racism so far, your focus has been exclusively on races as distinguished by skin color. In light of today’s outbreak of the war in Israel, might you consider exploring Steiner’s racism toward Jews, specifically his staunch anti-Zionist stance?

    I’d like to quote 2 excerpts from Steiner in his most mature stage of spiritual development. This lecture, actually a Q&A session (or AMA in modern lingo), was delivered in 1924 to the workmen at Dornach rebuilding the new Goetheanum from the ashes of the old.

    Vom Wesen des Judentums = Characteristics of Judaism
    8 May 1924, Dornach, GA 353

    https://rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA353/English/RSPC1950/19240508p01.html

    _________________________

    The attempt to set up a Jewish State denotes a decidedly reactionary drift, a retrogression that leads nowhere and runs counter to progress. A very distinguished Zionist with whom I was on friendly terms once told me about his ideal in life, which was to go to Palestine and found a Jewish kingdom there. He was, and still is, taking a very active part in the attempt to bring this about and he holds an important position in Palestine.

    I said to him: Such a cause is not in keeping with the times; what the times demand is something with which every human being can be allied without distinction of race, nation, class and so forth — that is the only kind of cause one can whole-heartedly support to-day. Nobody can expect me to join the Zionist movement, for there again one portion of humanity is being separated off from the rest.

    For this quite simple, natural reason, such a movement to-day cannot prosper in the real sense of the word — it is essentially retrogressive … The advocates of such movements often use a remarkable argument. They say: But the course of history has shown that men do not really want the “human-universal”; they desire everything to develop on the basis of race.

    The conversation of which I have just told you took place before the Great War of 1914–18. And a factor leading up to that War was men’s refusal to accept the great principle of the human-universal.

    The fact that men set their faces against this principle and wanted to separate from one another, to develop racial forces and interests, ultimately led to the outbreak of that War.

    Thus the greatest disaster of this 20th century was due to an urge that is also present in the Jews. — And so one can say: Since everything that the Jews have achieved could now be achieved consciously by all human beings, the Jews would serve their own interests best if they let themselves be absorbed into the rest of mankind, be merged in the rest of mankind, so that Judaism, as a race or people, would come to an end.

    [ . . . ]

    “Men must learn to perceive the Spiritual in their fellow-men. The Jewish world is still dominated by the racial impulse. The Jews marry among themselves, among their own people; their attention is still focused upon the racial, not upon the spiritual.

    Therefore to the question: “Have the Jewish people fulfilled their mission in the evolution of human knowledge?” the answer is: They have fulfilled their mission, for in earlier times the existence of a people who brought a certain form of monotheism into being was a necessity. To-day, however, what is required is spiritual knowledge. The mission of the Jewish people has been fulfilled. Hence this particular mission is no longer a necessity in evolution; the only right course is for the Jews to intermix with the other peoples.”

    1. Matthew David Segall Avatar

      Hi Tom,

      I reject your equation of anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. I am Jewish and I am critical of Israeli state policies, both as regards Palestine and Palestinians and as regards the attempt to set up an ethno-state. Either Israel is a democracy that respects the rights of all human beings, or it is a regressively tribal society that views those it has displaced as subhuman. As I see it, for better or worse, being homeless is in some sense the essence of Judaism. The flip side is being at home everywhere, carrying the Lord’s Tabernacle so that every place may be a spiritual home. So in my view, the equation of Zionism and Judaism is itself anti-Semitic.

      1. Tom Mellett Avatar
        Tom Mellett

        Hi Matt,

        Hey, I agree with your rejection! I think if Steiner were alive today — and rumor has it [anthropoop] that he’s presently incarnated as a woman in the USA — I think (s)he would praise the democratic state of Israel because it has become so Michaelic (cosmopolitan, etc.) while condemning the regressive tribal part.

        In Steiner’s day, we have “all the nations of the world” into which all the “wandering Jews” should assimilate, but today we have a kind of microcosm with democratic Israel existing as a single thriving nation-state into which the extreme tribal Jews in Israel should assimilate.

        But before taking up Steiner’s teachings about the myth of Ahasver, I’d like to introduce you to an Israeli scholar of Jewish mysticism and anthroposophy by the name of Israel Koren. He’s someone to consult about this issue.

        This article in English was published in 2012 but he’s written a more comprehensive 2 volume book about it in 2019 but it’s all in Hebrew.

        https://www.academia.edu/33413211/Rudolf_Steiner_and_the_Jews_That_Judaism_Still_Exists_is_an_Error_of_History_

        Rudolf Steiner and the Jews:
        “That Judaism Still Exists is an Error of History”
         
        by Israel Koren

        Published in Makor Rishon,
        November 2012

        A vigorous controversy is underway in Israel and worldwide concerning the attitude of Rudolf Steiner, the founder of anthroposophy, towards Jews and Judaism. Examining his writings and the critique against him leads to the conclusion that he was an anti-Jewish thinker, who thought that the Jews and Judaism, as anachronistic phenomena, play an inhibitory role in Western civilization should therefore pass from the world.

      2. Matthew David Segall Avatar

        Have you been to Israel? Sure, Tel Aviv is cosmopolitan, like any major city. But Israel has always been caught between democracy and ethno-state and is hardly Michaelic in my experience. Once again, the abstract you shared by Rishon seems to me to intentionally equivocate between being anti-Zionist and being anti-Jewish people. The way it is worded implies Steiner was pro-genocide, which is a complete distortion. Recall that Hitler himself referred to Steiner and social threefolding as a completely Jewish way of thinking (doubtless because of the way it enshrined liberal rights in the political sphere). Sorry but you seem to be seeking to throw gasoline on a fire rather than pursuing a fair reading of these issues.

  5. Andreas Lichte Avatar
    Andreas Lichte

    “… anyone who speaks of the ideals of race and nation…today is speaking of impulses which are part of the decline of humanity. If anyone now considers them to be progressive ideals to present to humanity, they speak untruth. Nothing is more designed to take humanity into its decline than the propagation of ideals of race, nationhood and blood.” Oct 26, 1917; GA 177

    the above quote from Rudolf Steiner “Der Sturz der Geister der Finsternis” is taken out of context as I have shown in my article:

    “»Der Sturz der Geister der Finsternis«: Antirassismus bei Rudolf Steiner – oder Wahn?”

    https://hpd.de/artikel/sturz-geister-finsternis-antirassismus-rudolf-steiner-oder-wahn-20742

    1. Matthew David Segall Avatar

      Yes, all of Steiner’s comments presuppose a vast cosmological context. Is your point that he says in the same lecture that in earlier phases of human evolution, blood/race was more important? That seems rather uncontroversial as a factual description of the premodern world.

      Anyway, I’m aware there are statements Steiner has made that are racist, which is the whole point of this post and the conversations we hosted in the videos above. In my opinion, despite many intellectual and spiritual gifts and a huge heart, he was a man of his time, and like so many late 19th and early 20th century thinkers, his lenses were stained by the assumptions of a colonial white supremacist European culture. This is not a feature of his work, however, but a bug, which I believe can be addressed. The vast majority of his work is of great value to those of us seeking a less racist, less sexist, more inclusive society today.

      1. Andreas Lichte Avatar
        Andreas Lichte

        @ Matthew David Segall

        The quote of »Der Sturz der Geister der Finsternis« that you published in your article is frequently misused by Anthroposophists and anthroposophical organisations to show that Rudolf Steiner was “anti-racist”. That’s a bold lie. See my article at “Humanistischer Pressedienst”.

        Rudolf Steiner is a proponent of white supremacy – Rudolf Steiner’s famous infamous statement:

        “Die weiße Rasse ist die zukünftige, ist die am Geiste schaffende Rasse.”

      2. Matthew David Segall Avatar

        We discuss that exact line in the video above. I am troubled by his statement but I would suggest that you should also avoid taking quotes out of context.

      3. Andreas Lichte Avatar
        Andreas Lichte

        @ Matthew David Segall

        “Die weiße Rasse ist die zukünftige, ist die am Geiste schaffende Rasse.”

        I can state the context of the above quote, I did many times, here’s just one example …:

        “(…)

        “Der Neger hat also ein starkes Triebleben. Und weil er eigentlich das Sonnige, Licht und Wärme, da an der Körperoberfläche in seiner Haut hat, geht sein ganzer Stoffwechsel so vor sich, wie wenn in seinem Innern von der Sonne selber gekocht würde. Daher kommt sein Triebleben. (…) Und so ist wirklich ganz interessant: Auf der einen Seite hat man die schwarze Rasse, die am meisten irdisch ist. Wenn sie nach Westen geht, stirbt sie aus. Man hat die gelbe Rasse, die mitten zwischen Erde und Weltenall ist. Wenn sie nach Osten geht, wird sie braun, gliedert sich zu viel dem Weltenall an, stirbt aus. Die weiße Rasse ist die zukünftige, ist die am Geiste schaffende Rasse. (…) Und so werden in der Zukunft gerade aus den Rasseeigentümlichkeiten solche Dinge hervorgehen, die man kennen muss, damit man sich richtig hineinstellt ins Leben.”1

        Dazu sagt Prof. Helmut Zander:

        “Diese Aussagen, die Steiner 1923, zwei Jahre vor seinem Tod, von sich gab, sind kein Betriebsunfall in seinem Denken, sondern eher ein zusammenfassender Schlussstrich unter Überzeugungen, die Wurzeln in seiner Kindheit haben und die er seit seiner theosophischen Zeit evolutionstheoretisch aufgeladen und immer wieder geäussert hatte. ‘Degenerierte Indianer’ und ‘passive Negerseelen’ gehörten schon 1909 zu seinem weltanschaulichen Inventar, dazu kommen vergleichbare Vorstellungen zum Judentum (…).”2

        (…)”

        excerpt from: “Rudolf Steiner war kein Rassist”, https://hpd.de/artikel/rudolf-steiner-war-kein-rassist-20317

      4. Matthew David Segall Avatar

        Yes, and as I say in the video above, I think he is wrong and is placing undue emphasis on skin color due to the pervasive racism of his cultural context. I do not view him as infallible, which unfortunately is the tendency among many anthroposophists. The fact remains that there are far more statements of his that speak to the importance of respecting each human being as a unique individual regardless of their generic characteristics.

      5. Andreas Lichte Avatar
        Andreas Lichte

        @ Matthew David Segall

        Matthew David Segall: “I think he [Rudolf Steiner] is wrong and is placing undue emphasis on skin color due to the pervasive racism of his cultural context.”

        Do you mean this “cultural context”:

        “There are many humorous things in the world, among them the white man’s notion that he is less savage than the other savages.”

        Mark Twain, “Following the Equator”, 1897

    2. Andreas Lichte Avatar
      Andreas Lichte

      @ Matthew David Segall

      Matthew David Segall: “The fact remains that there are far more statements of his [Rudolf Steiner] that speak to the importance of respecting each human being as a unique individual regardless of their generic characteristics.”

      Is that a “fact”? I already gave you an example of a common lie, see above.

      Here is another one:

      “Es ist einmal so beim Menschengeschlecht, dass die Menschen über die Erde hin eigentlich alle aufeinander angewiesen sind. Sie müssen einander helfen. Das ergibt sich schon aus der Naturanlage.”

      Rudolf Steiner

      sounds perfect, doesn’t it?

      sounds perfect as long you didn’t read the original text … see: “Rassismus-Zeitmaschine Anthroposophie”, https://hpd.de/artikel/rassismus-zeitmaschine-anthroposophie-19292

      1. Matthew David Segall Avatar

        I personally reject the idea of forming one’s identity primarily around race. I agree with Steiner’s statements (in a book he wrote himself, not transcribed from lecture notes) in “Philosophy of Freedom” that human beings must strive to free ourselves from what is generic to realize our individuality.
        Steiner’s racist statements are now obsolete and must be rejected. Similar statements have been made by Black leaders a century ago in an attempt to forge Pan-African identity among the diaspora.
        I understand that historically marginalized peoples may strategically forge such racial bonds as a means of protection against domination, but in our post-colonial time this no longer seems ideal. So, in these cases, we must put such statements in historical context.

      2. Andreas Lichte Avatar
        Andreas Lichte

        @ Matthew David Segall

        You do not comment on the constant anthroposophical deception about Rudolf Steiner’s racism – see my comments above –, instead you excuse Steiner by telling me:

        “Similar statements have been made by Black leaders a century ago in an attempt to forge Pan-African identity among the diaspora.”

        Do you like to dance the limbo?

      3. Matthew David Segall Avatar

        I did say I find the way anthroposophists view him as an infallible avatar does great damage to the reception of his work, which despite the blemishes you rightly point out remains of great value in our time. The anthroposophical movement should acknowledge his racist statements and not pretend he didn’t say them. The good news is there are many other statements Steiner has made that stand against racism and sexism.

      4. Andreas Lichte Avatar
        Andreas Lichte

        @ Matthew David Segall

        Matthew David Segall: “… [Rudolf Steiner] remains of great value in our time”

        Why?

        I read Rudolf Steiner, you understood that … so please no truisms

      5. Matthew David Segall Avatar

        Spiritual renewal in a time of pervasive materialism, misanthropy, and nihilism. Social threefolding: https://cosmosandhistory.org/index.php/journal/article/view/1069/1723
        Developing new post-mechanistic/materialistic scientific method: https://matthewsegall.files.wordpress.com/2022/12/goethe-and-whitehead_holistic-science-journal.pdf

        To give a few examples.

      6. Matthew David Segall Avatar

        By the way given your original admonition upon commenting on my blog, I’d appreciate it if you did not take my own statements out of context as you did above by not acknowledging my qualifications. It just signals you are here to push an agenda in bad faith. I am acknowledging your concerns about Steiner’s racist statements, which I denounce. But I do not agree with what appears to be your overall agenda, to tar his entire body of work as essentially racist/white supremacist.

      7. Andreas Lichte Avatar
        Andreas Lichte

        @ Matthew David Segall

        Matthew David Segall: “By the way given your original admonition I’d appreciate it if you did not take my own statements out of context.”

        I’m sure you will explain that to me, will you?

      8. Matthew David Segall Avatar

        Given people can read what I wrote here for themselves, it is not particularly egregious, but if you were to quote this elsewhere it would be quite deceptive on your part not to include the next sentences I wrote above about strategic essentialism >>

        @ Matthew David Segall

        You do not comment on the constant anthroposophical deception about Rudolf Steiner’s racism – see my comments above –, instead you excuse Steiner by telling me:

        “Similar statements have been made by Black leaders a century ago in an attempt to forge Pan-African identity among the diaspora.”

        Do you like to dance the limbo?

      9. Andreas Lichte Avatar
        Andreas Lichte

        @ Matthew David Segall

        you should not change your comments after publishing them – that creates chaos and a wrong image of my response. Below is what you originally wrote (I got it via subscription of the comments):

        “Matthew David Segall just commented on Rudolf Steiner and Racism.

        In response to Andreas Lichte:

        @ Matthew David Segall Matthew David Segall: “… [Rudolf Steiner] remains of great value in our time” Why? I read Rudolf Steiner, you understood that … so please no truisms

        By the way given your original admonition I’d appreciate it if you did not take my own statements out of context.”

What do you think?